Thursday, May 08, 2008

Declaration of Evil

(Photo from the Kenesset website)



"We hope that by Jewish immigration Palestine would ultimately become as Jewish as England is English "

Chaim Weizmann, the first President of Israel.

8 comments:

Solomon2 said...

Hareega, Arabs can discuss what history is "good" and "evil" when they don't have to worry about whether they will suffer with their lives by the hands of their fellow Arabs if they give the "wrong" answers. Not before.

The Arabs of Palestine

Hareega said...

solomon, good to see you back.

Arabs are indeed suffering under the hands of many of their leaders, but those leaders wouldn't have been in place if it wasn't for Israel. America's policies towards Arab countries wouldn't have been so biased if it wasn't to protect Israel. It's a country that should not have existed.

Solomon2 said...

"those leaders wouldn't have been in place if it wasn't for Israel -"

Arabs who are executed as "collaborators" often aren't killed at the commands of Arab leaders, but by their own fellows, usually immediately and without trial. It is the product of generations of deliberate "Mad-Hatterism", as described in the link above - and that story was written in 1961!

Hareega, anti-Zionism and anti-Americanism are diseases. They serve to alleviate the individual's sense of personal and collective responsibility and thus enforce a diseased ego. You are not at the level of judging whether or not it's right for Israel to exist until your intellect is able to judge freely. Arabs may be born human, but through this twisted form of education, have they not devolved into apes?

Luckily, the process is reversible, as some Iraqis have demonstrated. Now that the shadow of totalitarianism and terrorism is lifting, some Iraqis even maintain that of all the countries in the middle east, only "mature" Israel has the right to nuclear weapons.

Hareega said...

Solomon, I'm trying to read the links you're giving me but they're too long.

Just remember that before 1948, there were plenty of Arab Jews who lived in Arab countries, and none of them was persecuted while they were being persecuted and killed in large numbers in Europe.
Issac Shamir himself was Palestinian, born in Plestine with a Palestinian passport. however Zionosits were able to convine Jews around the world that Palestine was the holy land that nobody lived in.

By what sense can you convince me (no links please) that followers of a religion have the right to come from all over the world to conquer a land and kick its citizens out of it and claiming the land for them by force?

tommy said...

Arabs are indeed suffering under the hands of many of their leaders, but those leaders wouldn't have been in place if it wasn't for Israel. America's policies towards Arab countries wouldn't have been so biased if it wasn't to protect Israel. It's a country that should not have existed.

Yes, if not for Israel, the Arab world would be a land stirred by the spirit of democracy and inhabited by shiny, happy people wearing gumdrop smiles -- much as it was prior to 1947.

Who would have guessed the mere existence of Israel would have guaranteed totalitarian governments in places as far-flung as Yemen, Oman, Kuwait, Algeria, Tunisia and Sudan? Who knew that Israel's influence was so powerful and pernicious that it could literally reach back in time and turn Saudi Arabia into an independent autocracy as early as the late 1920s and hold those freedom-loving Saudis in check ever since?

The sorry shape of the Arab political world couldn't possibly be a reflection of Arab culture. Any such assertion would smack of racism, as would any claim that Arabs might be held responsible for the miserable condition of their own societies. It couldn't be that Arabs simply don't conceive of freedom in the way that the West does or that they don't value democratic principles as highly as those in the Occident. No, the fault for all Arab social and political troubles must lie with the Jews.

مياسي said...

Interesting quote indeed!!! do u think they had succeeded?? Is Israel now is totally Jewish ?? what time would it takes to make it like that ?

The Observer said...

Unfortunatly what solomon said is true! We came to a point where we are more dangerous to each other than Israel to us! Shouldnt this be a wake up call?

This is beside the point, but this morning I heard on the radio a fact that people in china who speak english are more than the citizens of the united states!

Shouldn't we learn the new rules of the modern world?

Hareega said...

tommy,
you cannot judge what Arabs would have been now based on what they have been prior to 1947. There was a true democracy in countries like Syria and Jordan, where the opposition took control of the Parliament and there were anti-government and anti-regime newspapers distributed all over these countries. There has been fair election in Paestine last time and Hamas scored a huge victory but the US and Israel decided to ignore these elections and stand by the very unpopular and corrupt Fateh.
It appears that the Us would support "the democracy of the West" only when it works in its way.

I would not go out of mind and start defending Arab regimes. However you would be wrong thinking that Israle is in any way better. They have abused other people by occupying their land, throwing away its inhabitants and killing them without being held responsible by the international community.

Mayasi,
you can make your own judgement !

Observer,
thei are different kinds of danger, but the most dangerous one is having your whole identity stolen. To have your language changed and your homeland occupied by strangers coming from all part of the world is worse than death, at least to me.